Polish extreme metal kings have done it again. This time
around with the monumental release 'Demigod'. I had a chance to catch
up with founder/frontman , Nergal , who are currently finishing up the
second leg of their U.S. tour with King Diamond. Nergal talks about the
thrills of their basically new found power in the U.S. market. As well
as a few other things I was curious about.
JH: First off, give us a brief history of the band.
N: Well I formed the band in ‘91. We’ve seven albums and ‘Demigod’
is our brand new record. There have been several line-up changes you
know. There’s just too much details to go into right now and there’s no
time. Yes , but . Yes that’s very breif.
JH: Yes it was. That’s cool. So you’ve been on this leg of the tour
for a couple of weeks now, how well has it been going?
N: Very good. It’s been very good. It seems like we’re really
stepping up. It’s getting better and better. And from being a totally
unknown band like in 2003, which was like the first album we came over
here for and now it’s like a huge difference. It’s just getting better
and better now. It’s great. I’m happy. We’re just working hard trying
to build a solid fan base here in the U.S. The record is selling like
crazy for us. We’ve already gone over 10,000 copies now in 3 months.
Which is great results for such an extreme music.
JH: Glad to hear that. Now back in Jan. & Feb. you were here with
Suffocation. Are you noticing a larger turnout for Behemoth this time
around? Where as before was much more of an introduction to the band.
N: Yea, yea. I am noticing that. I can see that. On this tour we can
see the difference. We can see that something has developed. Even since
the Suffocation tour. That tour was more underground tour and audience.
And with King Diamond we get to be introduced to a much more mainstream
audience.
JH: King Diamond may be a little more well know, but still just as
underground as the next.
N: Yes very true. But still I remember this couple from Orlando, or
Baltimore. Both we like 45 or something. And they said they were never
into this kind of music, but after seeing us live became fans. Than a
few days later I got an e-mail from them. This is what I find very
refreshing about our band. In the U.S. there are so many people you can
reach. And they’re totally, they’ve never heard of the band. And for
us, have a 13 years is a long history, is very refreshing. If you know
hat I mean.
JH: I suppose I do.
N: You know in Europe, we’re this legendary band. A heavy hitter.
And it’s cool to come here and be the newcomer. Nobody really knows you
and are like, WOW!!!.
JH: Yea, Satyr (Satyricon), mentioned that in an interview I did
with him back in December.
N: Yea, yea. So I think it might actually lengthen the life of the
band because we feel a new power coming. It’s cool.
JH: Can you tell us a bit about the new record, ’Demigod’.
N: Well, it’s massive, crushing. It’s pretty much everything that
this band is all about. The title speaks for itself. The whole music,
the whole concept talks about non-compromise. A non-compromising
approach towards life, towards people, towards all surroundings. It’s
full of history, full of emotions. It’s pretty much anything all mixed
up together. This is Behemoth. What can I say. Get through the lyrics
and make up your own mind for yourself. Get inspired. I don’t want to
try to explain what all the songs are about, you know. I can give you a
few key words. What this record is to me. And just listen to this and
tell me if you agree or not. I better like this discussing this way.
JH: How would you say it compares or differs to that of your last
release?
N: It’s faster. It’s more intense. More insane, more diverse, more
technical. We pretty much put all the elements on this record that we
had on our last, only we improved on them. There are some really slow
parts like on the song ‘ The Reign Ov Shemsu-Hor’ , the closing song.
Which is a mantle epic. It’s just huge, you know. And we had these kind
of tracks on the last, but it was just to push every way. To push much
further. Which makes this record more, professional?
JH: What was it that first intrigued you into playing such extreme
metal?
N: I just came to the point by experience. I started off with the
traditional heavy metal, forming my first band when I was 8 or 9. With
my friends. We played like regular heavy metal band. Then we got into
thrash, death metal. But then I found that black metal was more
refreshing thing. So I wanted to form my own band. Behemoth has been
extreme since day one. Every record shows that we get more and more
extreme. Which is cool I think. There are so many bands out there that
soften their sound. I hate that. We keep the band honest. And straight
forward. Day by day. Faster and more technical.
JH: Now in the early days Behemoth were primarily a black metal
band. Than you seemed to progress more towards a death metal sound.
N: Well it’s all about labeling really don’t like that.
JH: Where does Behemoth fit in? Extreme?
N: You know, when you talk about Slayer, you would never consider
them as a thrash metal band. You know what I mean? Even though they are
the definition of thrash metal. But nobody considers them as,…Slayer is
just Slayer. Nobody even tries to think about where to put Slayer now.
You know? They just fuckin’ slay anyone.
JH: Since day one they always have.
N: Yes they have. And that’s what I try to maintain with our band.
Just to be a trademark itself. We don’t want to follow this or that
path. I like people to say oh yea, there’s Behemoth trademarks, vocals
and guitars. I’m not saying I hate originality, I hate that word. I
don’t believe in anything like that in music. Seems after The Beatles,
nothing was original. They were like the first real rock band. Then it
was like getting some more distortion and double bass. And that’s it.
But still, it’s all about putting things together in a different
configuration. And, it’s what we do. We just try to sound like
Behemoth. You can say we sound like death metal and I’d be fine with
that. Thrash metal, whatever. Just listen to the song off the new
record ,’Conquer All’, it has some pure heavy metal influences in it.
But than again, it’s extreme. The vocals are massive. They strike you
right here.
JH: Seems just about ten years ago, it was all just heavy metal.
N: Yes. Even the bands who were not heavy metal.
JH: Now with most bands fighting to remain vital in their extreme
metal scenes, Behemoth seem to do it very effortlessly. What do you
attribute this to?
N: I don’t know.
JH: Was that a trick question?
N: Yea, yea that was tricky. Give me another one. I’m sorry.
JH: That’s okay. What sort of things inspire your lyrical writing?
N: I’ve got this universal answer. It’s life man. A lot of guys are
like, yea I read this book. And that’s good and all. But through
growing up and maturing, I’m pretty sure that it’s just all about life.
Enjoying life. Experiencing life. And transporting this experience
through the music. That’s kinda how I see things. That’s what Behemoth
is all about. Behemoth is all about my life. And if you ask any of
these guys they’ll say yea we tried to bring in a different spirit, our
spirit you know, into the songs, but you know that’s what the band is
about.
JH: So you’re the primary song writer?
N: Yea. I give the idea of how the songs should sound like.

JH: Into any other side projects?
N: No. I don’t have the fuckin’ time. Behemoth takes up 99% of my
time.
JH: I also hear you’re fairly well educated? College degrees, museum
curator ship. You ever consider going into one of those lines of work?
N: No, no. that’s too boring. I’ve got to be doing this. I need to
be traveling. I love to be on the road. Lack off sleep and shitty food.
You can’t beat it. Although House of Blues has the best food yet. Today
we were all joking why we came for 20 minute sets. And now I know, for
a good dinner! (laughing) The food here is fucking awesome.
JH: Now on a personal level, are your beliefs in Satanism true? Or
are they geared towards the genre of music you play? What is you stance
on religion?
N: You know, it’s pretty universal. It’s like a 3-dimensional thing.
So, I see things on several different levels. It’s not that we’re
satanic for the sake of being satanic. Satanism is more like being ,
JH: Are you looking to explain the Anton Szandor LaVey writings? If
so I understand those.
N: No. As I said before, I don’t like labeling things or myself. Or
categorize a certain genre. I’m sorry for the Christians cause they
already did it. Being Satanic is just being on a secular level. Having
a discussion with certain kind of people. With my friends and people
who are spiritual in connection, we don’t really speak on a Satanic
level. We are far above that. We don’t need to do that. Satanism is
more or less like a weapon. And it’s very material. It’s so much easier
to live the satanic way just so you can deal with the people of the
world.
JH: I couldn’t agree with you more.
N: I would say it’s sort of a way of respect to ourselves. Our
nature. Our listings.
JH: A lot of people don’t understand the philosophy behind it.
N: Yea I know. That’s what I mean. They misinterpret the words to
vandalism or such. People just don’t understand. It’s very individual
and it’s a very material thing. So that’s how I see things. Satanism is
a weapon. Or a tool to make your life easier for the here and now.
That’s just one of the levels I deal with. You know there are probably
thousands of levels though. That’s just to put it in short.
JH: What’s up next for Behemoth?
N: After this tour we are flying to Guatemala to do one show. I’m
really excited about it. Because I already did a tour in South America
and Central America. I found myself very excited about these countries.
They don’t get much metal, so it’s cool to go there. Then we are going
to open for Iron Maiden in Poland, we’ll do some of the summer
festivals. Then in September we’ll be starting another tour in Europe,
ah 32 dates or so, with Hate Eternal co-headling, then we’ll take a few
days break and we’re flying back to America , 2 weeks lined up in
Canada. Then we’re opening up for a huge death metal band,… I can’t
remember their name, it’ll be like one month again. Then another tour
in Europe. It will end up about 230 shows for this record. And then
it’s gonna be it. I don’t like just sitting around waiting for miracles
to happen. I’ve got to keep busy. You’ve got to help yourself in life
in order to get some more splendor. I don’t like my boys to get bored .
JH: Otherwise they might stray.
N: Oh yea. That’s the way we are.
JH: Well that’s about all I’ve got. Is there anything you’d like to
add?
N: Thank you very much for coming to the show. Thanks for the
supporting the music and attitude. Thank you. I’m very thankful for
that. Let’s keep the metal around. Stay strong.